After hearing yesterday about how Scientology is on trial in France, it made me want to find out a little bit more about the faith/philosophy/organization.
Here are some of the confused/confusing claims of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, on Muhammad and Islam.
see also:
nothing unreal exists
"goodbye children"
Here are some of the confused/confusing claims of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, on Muhammad and Islam.
Hubbard : "It's an enormous stone hanging suspended in the middle of a room, this is an incident called the Emanator by the way, and this thing is by the way the source of the Mohammedan Lodestone that they have hanging down there, that, eh, when Mohammed decided to be a good small-town booster in eh Kansas, Middle-East, or something of the sort.
"By the way, the only reason he mocked that thing up, is the trade wasn't good in his hometown. That's right. You read the life of Mohammed. And he's got a black one and it sort of hung between the ceiling and the floor, I don't know, maybe they call it the Casbah or something or... Anyway, anyway, that thing is a mockup of the Emanator! The Emanator is bright, not black.
"And so, your volunteer, who insists on a sightseeing trip, goes in and this thing is standing in the middle of the room, and it's going 'wong wong wong wong wong' and he says: "Isn't that pretty?". It sure is, and then he says "Mmmgrmrm ponk" Why, I'll tell you, they cart him from there, and they take him in and they do a transposition of beingness."
see also:
nothing unreal exists
"goodbye children"
10 comments:
what. I might be offended if I had the faintest idea what all that meant.
salaams,... lol... i know what you mean. I was trying to find a clearer explanation of what they believe. From what I could gather, their understanding of other religions is tied up in the whole Xenu story. So in general scientology teaches that many human emotional problems and false beliefs are a product of Xenu's brainwashing from millions of years ago. So the "Emanator" is some entity from the distant past and I think L Ron Hubbard is saying that the Kaaba is a false copy of this Emanator instead of a place of worship built by Abraham (as).
diddo Bin.
In Minneapolis where I'm from, there is a masked group of protesters, who picket Scientology weekly.
I don't like Scientology, but other issues are more pressing.
Are they the single greatest threat to the world? Of course not. But I've been reading a lot about them recently and I'm more and more surprised by some of the negative aspects.
I'm not even talking about the Xenu story and the e-meters or the idea that "clears" and OTs should have special poweers. That's all odd, but, especially with religion, "odd" is rather relative.
But apart from all that, it seems like a chunk of the Scientology leadership is involved in fraud (e.g. there is a pending court case in France right now which is what got me reading/writing about this stuff, but even L Ron Hubbard was *convicted* of fraud in France). Leaders in the church have also been involved in theft, breaking into government buildings, physical assaults against members, rather nasty forms of harrassment against critics.
People should definitely be able to believe what they want but it seems like some of the leadership should be prosecuted.
The scientology had a headquarter in Paris, not to far from my highschool. One time my older brother and a friend of his went in. They were greated by some weirdos giving them a speach about their psychological tests and stuff.
Those scientologists where complet lunatics, my brother stole some videos and stuff, they didn't see nothing (hey I know its bad stealing even from fraud convicted organisation i guess, this was a long time ago). But anyway, back at home my brother showed me the stuff he stole, there was a video of a concert, with Silverster Stalone's brother singing on stage, this was hillarous, I'm still laughing to this day. Really you had to be on drug to watch that thing for more than a few minutes.
I think Hubbard is obviously to rank with Aleister Crowley among those cult leaders who have deeply penetrated the entertainment world.
Actually, there are deeper connections between L Ron Hubbard and Crowley. Hubbard was a member of one of Crowley's organizations and based some of Scientology's teachings on Crowley's.
Yes I had read that link before. I've been back into reading René Guénon lately, i think it's relevant to read Guénon being a muslim to understand gnosticism, and how we as muslim should feel about the gnosis from which all these occult movement (OTO, Scientology, Theosophical society, etc.) have their roots in.
To be honest I've read almost nothing by Guenon directly but I have read a couple of things by Fritjhof Schuon, Charles Le Gai Eaton, Martin Lings and more than a few by S.H. Nasr.
What would you recommend by Guenon?
As far as Guénon's metaphysics, 'Symbolism of the cross' is a good one to read because it goes over most of the things he wrote about in other books and gives a general idea of the concept. For his sociological work, 'the crisis of the modern world' is Guénon's classic.
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